Mahagun - MahagunPuram, NH24, Ghaziabad: September 2012

Sunday, September 30, 2012

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Hi,

I have returned back to Noida in the Night and visited the mahagun offfice @ 10:30am .

But I have found only Pardeep and Ankur in the office.

Also I have collected the offer of possession letter and shared some of my personal opinion based on discussion with my colleagues and friends already have flat or dealing in property business.

The stamp duty has been charged on the base of circle rate.
The stamp duty charges given in the letter are as per new Circle rate revised just 15days back.
The builder has considered discounts as per the floor but calculating the registration charges on Flat cost including the additional charges (e.g. EDC,Legal admin.& any other applicable ) therefore we have to pay around 7k (for 900 sq Feet of Flat area) more to the builder.
But if I go with the builder the process will be fast and hassle free.
Therefore i have decided to go with the builder for Flat registration not any external advocate.

This does not means, i am not also concerned on security issues,basic amenities issues & other primary requirement expected from builder while moving to the flat in lieu of additional charges paying to the builder. Only providing electricity & water is not means the flats are in livable conditions.So we should need to discuss these points & some of points as given below with the builder & it's representatives, can also ask the status?

a. Are our family remain safe in our absence? who will be responsible for any miss happening?

b. Have proper arrangement has been done for sevearge & water drainage?

c. The construction work is still in progress and construction people are moving here and there. also Parks are not ready yet .in that case, How we can leave or take out our kids outside for play?

d. What is status of Lift and has installed properly? is it in working conditions/ what is the assurance that happened in to the mascot building will not going to happen here again?

e. The shopping complex is not ready yet and in that case from where we are going to buy the basic daily needs of life?

f. Have any one visited the mahagunpuram after getting the offer of possession letter and tried to analyse the other missing points ,latest status?

g What is the status of open car parking area ? is it ready for car parking?

h. have the Flat numbering has been done to identify the flat in the building ?

Thanks & Regards

Dev

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Hi Everyone,

We can hardly see 4-5 friends confirmation for tomorrows' meeting.
It looks everyone has already made there mind to move ahead with builder. I think this is really a good sign that everyone has now decided to move one step further towards their sweet home.

I can understand everyone's concern that Flat registration date is around the corner.

My best wishes to all Mahagunpurams' Family Members for their dream & Sweat home.

I am very hopeful that we all will again Re-unite once again in future
very soon, After flat registration is done to discuss more about Society Security, Living condition and for other basic amenities.

In NutShell, Tomorrow we are not going to have any meeting..

Thanks
Arvind
Vidhi - 9871485132.

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Parking Charges Increased

Hi,
But mahagun site still showing parking charge as 2 lakh only not 3 lakh as quoted.

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Registry charges

Hi All -

I totally agree with you deepak ji, we should keep our focus on getting a livable environment in Mahagun insted of putting efforts in saving 20-25k INR,

We should take the matter up with mahagun offcials regarding the security, cleaniliness and other basic amenities which is required to stay in a comfortable ambience.

Thanks for your all understanding. I mean this is my personal suggestion, rest what all of us will decide will be accepted.

Thanks

-Abhinav Johary

939, Saraswati Tower.

[Mahagunpuram] Registry charges

Helloo friend's :

I have gone through every discussion & point of view of each member posted yet & finally reached to an opinion that we must for registry with the builder only for following simple reasons or observation :

1) Practically there is not much difference in what the price quoted by builder for registry or if we go to external support, even if we choose for external sources then there might be few things which are out of our vision as of now.

2) If we compare these charges with registry charges which are taken by projects near to mahagunpuram are also similar as in case with aashiana le residency.

3) I feel point we must focus is the liveable condition at mahagun campus at earliest/ safety/ basic amenities on priority.

This is my observation & opinion only not any conclusion from my side, though I won't mind to go with the unanimous decision by mahagunpuram resident team.

Thnx
Deepak Agarwal
632- Vinayak
9818284433

Thursday, September 27, 2012

[Mahagunpuram] Mahagunpuram RWA

Dear All,

We would like to let you all know that this blog is specific to Mahagunpuram flat owners community. So, its kind of private blog. Of late it has been observed that there are few members who are involved in commercial advertisement and other unwanted activities.

Effective immediately, we have started moderating the membership request. We will also monitor member's activity to fish out suspicious members who are not an owner.

In this regard, request you to kindly update your contact details at below link. You may get a verification call.

We are sorry to have strict moderation, but we don't have much option sighting the nature of discussion happening here.

If you have any issue, you can reply here.

-Moderator

[Mahagunpuram] Parking Charges Increased

Hi

I have got flat in bhagrithi and went to mahagunpurum last weekend for additional flat for my freind.
Good to see the progress and learnt that parking charges are increased for new bookings to 3 lakhs.

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Hello Friends,

I had visited Mahagun Puram yesterday and would like to inform you all that our dream home is still far from being livable.

Although we have differences in coming to a consensus whether to go ahead and get registry done thru Mahagun or thru an external source, we should come forward in large number and put pressure on Mahagun to provide basic aminities and livable atmosphere at Mahagun Puram.

I appreciate the initiatives taken by Kakkar Ji, and request him to share his ideas and experience in getting this achieved.

Is it possible to meet again on this coming Saturday at 10:30 AM (Venue - Mahagun office)?

Please let me know if you have any issues.

Thanks,

Deepak Kumar

+91 9811824292

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call. * *

Anjan Ji
Could you please provide me your contact no? I want to clarify some doubts.
Regards
Bharat
1020 Sidhi
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Hi ! Dear All,
Today I had handed over my final dues to Mahagun Authority and asked them to process my registry in an ASAP basis .

Regards
Anjan Saraswati 1137.

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Re: [Mahagunpuram] Join the Family

They are not amenities n directly linked to assets hence may be chargd by builder...

Club membership , sinking fund, etc etc are exlcuded by every1 by n large..

Regards

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Re: [Mahagunpuram] Join the Family

Can you please explain how EDC and Meter Charges are included while calculating the stamp duty?

EDC and Meter Charges should fall under non-asset category.

Thanks,

Deepak Kumar

Saraswati 734

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Join the Family

Hello All,

I checked the calculation of the registry amount proposed by Mahagun and i found that discount of 50% on circle rate is already incorporated in the calculations given by Mahagun.

My flat is on 10th Floor

Circle rate @ Mehraulli Ghaziabad is 24000

Applicable circle rate for floor above 5th is 12000 (i.e 50% discount)

Construction cost 9500

Total discounted rate applicable per sq mt. is 21500 (12000+9500)

Total area 120.774 sq mtr (1300 Sq Ft)

Cost of flat is 120.774 X 21500 = 2596641

This figure of 2596641 is exactly matching with the figure given by Mahagun in proposed charges.

In my view now there are only two points of indifference:

1.) Stamp duty to be paid on legal charge considered by Mahagun 7% of 12000 = 840 Rs.

2.) Legal charges indicated by Mahagun is 12000 plus service tax i.e 13483

So if we hire an advocate we may save 6000-8000 max on legal charges.

I want someone to explain where is the scope of substantial savings. I am unable to understand the scope of substantial savings of 20-50 K quoted by pvariouseople on the forum. As per my personal opinion the savings are maximum 8000. I dont have any doubt about the circle rate as this will be decided as per GDA / registrar norms. I dont think if the circle rate is 20 or 22 k then registry can be done considering 24 K(chances of any manipulation is very less as money is directly going to government so why one will escalate the rate to higher tier without any benefit).

You all may check the letter once again to cross check the above calculations.

--
Regards,
Rohit Mittal
9552599655

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call. *

Kakar Ji, Thank you very much for this proactive approach. It is really sad to know that very few of us are showing intetest and maximum has no concern. I am with you but cant meet as I am in Bangalore but certainly give you the voice support remotely.
Thanks
Bharat

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Hi All,

Kindly come fwd in majority to resolve out the issues.

We need to be united for resolving all the issues.

Thanks,
Ankur

[Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Last and Final Wake Up Call.

It is indeed beyond my comprehension that despite over 200 flat owners of Saraswati and sidhi having received the possession letters and running against time, still only around less than 10 of them have cared to respond and show any concern and involvement. This kind of apathy on their part, to their own cause, to say the least is extremely disheartening and discouraging.

I have given a great deal of thought to the developments and issues, which have largely emerged, consequent to the receipt of possession letters and our approach, and results thus far. It is there for everyone to see that our persistent well meaning efforts so far, have not solicited the kind of response and initiative which ought to have emerged. The numbers are stagnating at around 15 and are not growing at all. I have right from the very beginning maintained that larger and pro-active involvement of members , can only carry us through our concerns. I understand that very many members are residing in NCR, who should have had no problem in turning out in large numbers for a meeting. Is it that they are not aware of it—Looks very unlikely ????

I am of the firm opinion that it is a high time that members from Saraswati and Sidhi, who are running against time, come forward in large number and assume the lead at this crucial juncture and that too without further loss of time, before it is too late. Rest assure, we are always there to render rock solid active support in whatever manner required.

Further, I strongly advocate that we must submit a well written memorandum in coming few days, duly signed by large number of members, to Mahagun management and seek their written response, I must add that, since our concerns are so genuine, management in all probability should respond positively. However, after receipt of Mahagun response and its due examination, we should unanimously decide our further course of action, if required.

Lastly, I urge upon all of you to make all out efforts to reach out to as many members as possible, and that too with a sense of due urgency. We all are busy, but still don't we find time for everything, so why can't we find time for our common cause.

If I am willing to come all the way from 250 Kms for meeting, Why Can't Others???????

Please treat it as a Last and Final Wake Up Call from me.

Good Luck

B.R.Kakar

Vidhi-1015

Mob. 9034015875

[Mahagunpuram] registry issue

HI GUYS,

1.I AM MUKUL GUPTA PRESENTLY AM WORKING AS A SECOND SECRETARY FOR MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS, PRESENTLY POSTED WITH HIGH COMMISSION OF INDIA IN COLOMBO, SRI LANKA.
2. I HAVE SEVERAL YRS OF EXPERIENCE DEALING ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE BOTH IN POWER AND OTHERWISE. SEEING OUR SYSTEM, I MUST GUIDE YOU THAT IF U GET INTO CONFRONTATION WITH THE BUILDER, THE LOSS WILL BE YOURS NO MATTER HOW UNITED OR DETERMINED WE R.

3. SO I REQUEST ALL NOT TO CONFUSE EACH OTHER. PL GO AND GET THE REGISTRY DONE THRU MAHAGUN AND LIVE PEACEFULLY IN OUR SWEET HOMES.

4. 20-25 K IN FRONT OF 30 LAKH PLUS PROPERTY IS NOT WORTH TAKING CHANCES. SO PL END THIS REGISTRY ISSUE.

5. YES THE ISSUE TO BE FOLLOWED UP IS THE LIVEABLE STATE OF THE SOCIETY, AND AS PER GDA NORMS THE BUILDER CANNOT HAND OVER THE PROPERTY W/O GETTING PROPER CERTIFICATION. GET TOGETHER FOR IT AND DISCUSS THE SAME WITH MAHAGUN BY SHOWING THE NEWSPAPER CUTTING AND RECORD THE EVENT AND THE MEETING, SO THAT THEY DO NOT DENY AFTERWARDS.

THANKS AND REGARDS TO ALL

[Mahagunpuram] Last Date Confirmation for registry and other dues.

Hi All,

Yesterday, I visited Mahagun office because of some discrepancy in the amount due at the time of possession.
Nidhi confirmed that if we are going through builder for registry, we have to clear all dues and registry amount max by 15-Oct-12 (Monday) as they will take 15 days time for registry process and it is clearly mentioned in the possession letter.

If we are going for registry by our own, we will have 15 days extra time for registry process i.e. 30-Oct-2012 but by this date registry formality should be completed.

This is just for information. I hope you all are aware of this.

Thanks & Regards,
Saurabh Kr. Agrawal
Mob: 09540583838

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Please speak to Mr Arvind Maurya, VIDHI- 711, MOB. 9871485132, as he is coordinating the meeting

B.R.Kakar, Vidhi-1015

MOB. 9034015875

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Subject: Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Dear Mr kakar
Tell me when we can meet in majority , if venue and time decided please let me know,
Shailendra Saxena
Siddhi 324
9910010791

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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:54:18 +0800 (SGT)

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Subject: Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Hi all,

I am still in Chennai and even not able to collect the possession letter.

Sorry I will not be able to join this time.

Regards

Devraj Singh

--- On Thu, 27/9/12, Ankur Gupta <ankur.gupta12@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ankur Gupta <ankur.gupta12@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.
To: MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 27 September, 2012, 10:22 AM

Hi All,

Kindly come fwd in majority to resolve out the issues.

We need to be united for resolving all the issues.

Thanks,
Ankur

On 9/27/12, baldev kakar <kakarbaldev@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
> Last and Final Wake Up Call.It is indeed beyond my comprehension that
> despite over 200 flat owners of Saraswati and sidhi having received the
> possession letters and running against time, still only around less than 10
> of them have cared to respond and show any concern and
> involvement. This kind of apathy on their part, to their own cause, to
> say the least   is  extremely disheartening and
> discouraging. I have given a great deal of thought to the developments
> and issues, which have largely  emerged, consequent to the
>  receipt of possession letters and  our  approach, and
> results thus far.  It is there for everyone to see that our persistent
> well meaning efforts so far, have not  solicited  the kind of
> response and  initiative which ought to have emerged. The numbers
>  are stagnating at around 15 and  are not growing at all. I have
> right from the very beginning maintained that larger and pro-active
> involvement of members , can only carry us through our concerns. I
> understand that very many  members are residing in NCR, who should have
> had no problem in turning out in large numbers for a meeting. Is it
> that they are not aware of it—Looks very unlikely ???? I am of the firm
> opinion  that it is a high time that members from Saraswati and Sidhi,
> who are running against time, come forward in large number and  assume
> the lead  at this crucial  juncture  and  that too
> without further loss of time, before it is too late.  Rest assure, we
> are always there to render rock solid active support in whatever manner
> required. Further, I strongly advocate that we must submit a well
> written  memorandum in coming few days, duly signed by large
> number of members, to Mahagun management and seek their written response, I
> must add that, since  our concerns are so genuine, management in all
> probability should respond positively. However, after receipt  of
>  Mahagun response and its due examination, we should  unanimously
> decide our further course of action, if required. Lastly, I urge upon
> all of you to make all out efforts to reach out to as many members as
> possible, and that too with a sense of  due urgency. We all are busy,
> but still don't we find time for everything, so why can't we find time for
> our common cause. If I am willing to come all the way from 250 Kms for
> meeting, Why Can't Others???????Please treat it as a Last and Final Wake Up
> Call from me.Good LuckB.R.KakarVidhi-1015Mob. 9034015875 

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Re: [Mahagunpuram] Documents Required For Registry *

Everything seems to be OK here except one. Will Mgun guys be ready to provide the eyewitness and photographs of the person having power of attorney. One more thing I would like to add that if power of attorney from Mgun wont present on the day of registry then....Can abybody clear this?
Bharat
1020 Sidhi
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Thanks for this information.

Mahagun guys also told me that you need Map and blu

Ask them how much time it will took for registry and what will be the total fee of advocate as well as under the table payment.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM, baldev kakar <kakarbaldev@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Documents Required For Registry

Thanks for this information.

Mahagun guys also told me that you need Map and blu

Ask them how much time it will took for registry and what will be the total fee of advocate as well as under the table payment.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:06 PM, baldev kakar <kakarbaldev@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Kindly note that the following Documents would be required for Registry as gathered from Mr Gaur, Advocate:

By Buyers ( Flat Owners )

ID proof of both the joint holders.

2 Photos of each holder.

One witness with ID proof and 2 Photos.

Flat front photograph ( can be taken on mobile )

File containing copy of Agreement, possession letter and final payment receipt etc. ( My Suggestion )

By Seller ( Maghagun )

ID proof with 2 photos of Maghagun Authorised Representative vested with power of attorney with relevant documents.

One witness with ID proof and 2 Photos.

B.R.Kakar

Vidhi--1015

Mob. 9034015875

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

Please speak to Mr Arvind Maurya, VIDHI- 711, MOB. 9871485132, as he is coordinating the meeting

B.R.Kakar, Vidhi-1015

MOB. 9034015875

From: Nilanjana Singh <singh.nilanjana@yahoo.com>
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To: "MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com" <MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Mahagunpuram] Last and Final Wake Up Call.

plz plan the meeting again finalise the venue and time.
tarun
sidhi
9899295791

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[Mahagunpuram] Documents Required For Registry

Kindly note that the following Documents would be required for Registry as gathered from Mr Gaur, Advocate:

By Buyers ( Flat Owners )

ID proof of both the joint holders.

2 Photos of each holder.

One witness with ID proof and 2 Photos.

Flat front photograph ( can be taken on mobile )

File containing copy of Agreement, possession letter and final payment receipt etc. ( My Suggestion )

By Seller ( Maghagun )

ID proof with 2 photos of Maghagun Authorised Representative vested with power of attorney with relevant documents.

One witness with ID proof and 2 Photos.

B.R.Kakar

Vidhi--1015

Mob. 9034015875

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Sharing of Observation and Concern *

### Kakar Ji, Could you please spare sometime on this saturday.
We want you to take this lead,if possible ###

Please let us know, the Strategy how?,where? and when? we can re-unite for the same.

Meanwhile request you all, please spare sometime from your busy shedule on coming saturday and see, if we all can re-unite once again. Time and place will be shared after Kakar Ji's confirmation.

Kakar Ji , please share your plan with us and accordingly we can decide next action plan for coming weekend.

If we don't meet this weekend, It would be too late for whom, who has already got there poseession letter.

Thanks
aRvind
Vidhi - 711

[9871485132]

Circle rate	22000
for 11th flr applicable	11000
const rate	9500
total applicable	20500
net cost (900)	1722000
stamp duty	128000
GDA fee	10200
Advocated	6000
total cost	144200