Friday, November 30, 2012

[Mahagunpuram] Lift Speed - Vinayak

I visited Mahagunpuram today and the central park and open spaces are a little disappointing and so is the swimming pool size which seems very small.

The shopping arcade and the club seem to be coming up nicely.

The biggest disappointment is the speed of the lifts which seems very very poor and if the speed will rmeain the same, we can expect a lot of problems. I am not sure if the lifts are in testing right now and that's why such slow speed but any comments are welcome.

I checked the Vinayak lifts.

The place will surely take another 2 months at least before a semblence of livability can be established here.

Ashish Bansal
Vinayak



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[Mahagunpuram] Flat for Sale in SIDDHI @900 sq ft

Hi,

I want to sell my flat in Siddhi , genuine buyers pls contact

Details
Flat no - 818
Floor -8th
Area- 900 Sq ft
Parking - Open
Penalty chq's - Recvd till Sept'12.


Contact - Ravi Arora # 8527493384



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[Mahagunpuram] Flat for Sale in SIDDHI @900 sq ft

Hi,

I want to sell my flat in Siddhi , genuine buyers pls contact

Details
Flat no - 818
Floor -8th
Area- 900 Sq ft
Parking - Open
Penalty chq's - Recvd till Sept'12.


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Thursday, November 29, 2012

Re: [Mahagunpuram] Mahagunpuram Main Gate



Mr.Faiz Good Morning,
                                     Please mention the size of flat and your flat.no.then i can reply you.

                                     Thanks for doing quarrying from me.Have a nice day.

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Hello what will be the rent for a mahagunpuram flat in third floor.thanks

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[Mahagunpuram] Need 2,3Bhk flats for sale and renting after Registry only. *



Mr.Bharat Good Morning,
                                        Thanks for doing this quarry from me.The maximum slab of rent of this flat will be between 7K to 10 K subject to woodwork done in the flat.

                     Please call me when u do complete formalaties of posession I will arrange rental for you Surely.

                                         Thanks.Have a nice day.

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Subject: Re: [Mahagunpuram] Need 2,3Bhk flats for sale and renting after Registry only. *
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Hi

How much will be the rent for 3 BHK on 10th floor with covered car parking.

Contact me at 9591324331

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Sir,good morning may be many of you know me as I have have booked many flats in Mahagunpuram only.you all know my nature of working.I am writing this. Mail today as many of my clients want flats after registry because  they want to get loan from their prefered bank.also if u want to get your flat rented  u can call me.Happy posession.                                                .Rajeev Kumar.9810710206.                               Nyaraghar Associates
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Hi

How much will be the rent for 3 BHK on 10th floor with covered car parking.

Contact me at 9591324331

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Sir,good morning may be many of you know me as I have have booked many flats in Mahagunpuram only.you all know my nature of working.I am writing this. Mail today as many of my clients want flats after registry because  they want to get loan from their prefered bank.also if u want to get your flat rented  u can call me.Happy posession.                                                .Rajeev Kumar.9810710206.                               Nyaraghar Associates
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Re: [Mahagunpuram] Mahagunpuram Main Gate

Hello what will be the rent for a mahagunpuram flat in third floor.thanks

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[Mahagunpuram] Re: Need 2,3Bhk flats for sale and renting after Registry only.

Sir. I received so many calls since my posting yesterday.Thanks for your extensive support and faith on me.I hope I will. be able to fulfill your quarry's and requirements in future also.Good Night.Rajeev Kumar.
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Sir,good morning may be many of you know me as I have have booked many flats in Mahagunpuram only.you all know my nature of working.I am writing this. Mail today as many of my clients want flats after registry because they want to get loan from their prefered bank.also if u want to get your flat rented u can call me.Happy posession. .Rajeev Kumar.9810710206. Nyaraghar Associates

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Re: [Mahagunpuram] COMPLETION CERTIFICATE / COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE



Componding certificate shouldn't be considered an alternative for completion certificate. It just contains approved layout of the project.
 


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Subject: [Mahagunpuram] COMPLETION CERTIFICATE / COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE
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Date: Thursday, November 29, 2012, 7:43 PM

 
COMPLETION CERTIFICATE / COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE.

Posted on : Wed Nov 28, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Amit ji and Anand Ji...I will also be raising these queries for sure…….Sanjay Kurani
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Posted on : Tue Nov 27, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

By having a copy of COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE, will our Flats will become APPROVED FLATS/TOWERS AT Mahagunpuram OR they will remain UNAPPPROVED till we get a copy of Completion Certificate?

Whether the basic amenities [like Electricity (Cheap Electricity), Drinking Water (Ganga Water), Municipal Services, etc.] will be provided by various authorities with the production of a copy of COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE or it is mandatory to get all these amenities only on the production of a copy of Completion Certificate.

Also, kindly see the validity of the Compounding Certificate.
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Posted on : Tue Nov 27, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Listen everyone, Mr Manish sareen and Miss Nidhi said they don't have completion certificate as completion certificate is meant for the whole society "Mahagunpuram" as the Mahgunpuram completes hey will obtain the same, They Have Compounding certificate and they can give us in next meeting and any one can see this certificate in correnthum Building at Mahagun office of the individual Building respectively. Now what is the next step decide and follow................ Amit S Gupta
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Posted on : Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:04 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear Devraj Singh,

Ask them to provide a copy of Compounding Certificate. Only then, you will be able to know the difference between the Completion Certificate and Compounding Certificate.

Whether the basic amenities [like Electricity (Cheap Electricity), Drinking Water (Ganga Water), Municipal Services, etc.] will be provided by various authorities with the production of a copy of Compounding Certificate or it is mandatory to get all these amenities only on the production of a copy of Completion Certificate.
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Posted on : Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:34 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Hi all,

When we asked from mahagunpuram official about completion certificate, they told that they have the compounding certificate from gda.

Can some one have idea about what is this compounding certificate?

Is it sufficient or still required the completion certificate?

If they have not obtained the completion certificate, then what action we are planning to get the same from builder ?
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:50 P.M. at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Everybody, including you, should try hard (in writing to Mahagun) so that Mahagun should consider all these things. Otherwise, later on in future, don't complain about the basic requirements [like Electricity (Cheap Electricity), Drinking Water (Ganga Water), Municipal Services, etc.]. It is understood that these services will be provided by the concerned authorities only after production of copy of Completion Certificate.
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:40 P.M. at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Mahagun is not considering all these things.
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:49 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

You all are also requested to kindly check with Mahagunpuram Officials at Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited), NOIDA whether they are enclosing the copy of Completion Certificate alongwith Possession Letters for possession of Flats of various Blocks (Towers) at Mahagunpuram. Copy of Completion Certificate should also be enclosed with Possession Letters in addition to other/remaining demands / documents by Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited) for the possession of Flats of various Blocks (Towers) at Mahagunpuram.
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:09 A.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

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Subject: Re: [Mahagunpuram] COMPLETION CERTIFICATE

what about mahagunpuram?
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Posted on : 25th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

What is a completion certificate?

During the construction of a building, the builder is supposed to get no-objection certificates from various departments of the local development authority for basic amenities such as water and electricity, stating that the building construction is not violating any norms in the area.

Once the project is completed, the local authority inspects the premise on the basis of the building plan and awards the completion certificate if it is satisfied. According to apartment Acts of various states, after completion of a project, it is mandatory for the builder or the owner of a stand-alone property to get a completion certificate from the local authority to ensure the supply of basic amenities.

The builder then applies to the departments yet again along with a copy of the completion certificate to get water, electricity connection and other basic amenities for the project.

Provisional completion certificate: Sometimes builders get a provisional completion certificate to hand over the possession of apartments in a newly constructed project. In the meanwhile, the developer finishes the remaining work such as painting and landscaping. However, the provisional certificate is valid only for six months. After the expiry of this period, the builder has to apply for the final completion certificate.

Why is it important?

Apart from ensuring that basic amenities, such as water, electricity and drainage system are provided, a completion certificate ensures that the builder/owner has constructed the building according to the approved building plan. Without obtaining the completion certificate, the builder cannot give the possession of the house to the buyer.

If the builder cannot get the completion certificate, there could be trouble in terms of delay in possession. For instance, in the Commonwealth Games Village (CWG) in New Delhi, it was found during the process of awarding the completion certificate that the builder had violated norms of the floor area ratio limit by constructing on a larger area than mandated. While the government is yet to decide on awarding the completion certificate and regularization of the extra area, buyers in the project are waiting for possession.
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Posted on : 20th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

It is understood that, at present, all the residents of Siddhi Block (Tower), Saraswati Block (Tower) and Vinayak Block (Tower), who have received Possession Letters, have not been provided with a copy of Completion Certificate alongwith the Possession Letters. About other documents, as indicated by you above, members can confirm by posting on Mahagunpuram Members Wall on Facebook.
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Posted on : 20th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

dear fellow owners at Mahagunpuram, best wishes to all of you.

hope everything gets completed smoothly and all flat owners at MAHAGUNPURAM live in peace.

i have my flat in Bhagirathi tower. i would like to know if anyone has got possession of their flats or tentative schedule of possession. if yes whether they are getting all the property documents necessary as per the local authorities. please share your experience on this platform.
as i know, few of them in the list of these documents are :-

1. approved development plan/layout for complete building or at-least your Flat with common area.

2. architectural specifications line fire safety and earthquake safety parameters if any.

3. completion certificate as per that plan.

4. please add any other if you know.

I have asked these documents to Mahagun some times back but they didn't provide it to me at that time. they said all the necessary documents has been provided to bank which has financed (in my case HDFC). but they promised to provide these documents to me at the time of possession.

I want to know whether people who has already got possession had faced any problem in getting these documents. please share your experience with all of us. it may be possible someone among us may be helpful to you.
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Posted on : 19th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

We all and, especially those who are getting the keys of their Flats in November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram, should request Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited) to give a copy of the Completion Certificate of the completed Tower (s) /Flat (s) for our record and also for further necessary action as copies of Completion Certificate will be required to be given to various Authorities (GDA, Revenue Department, Municipal Corporation, etc) in future for various services.

It is understood that the Possession of Flat (s) / Tower (s) should have to be given to the individuals by first obtaining Completion Certificate from the concerned Authority by Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited) only then the works in Flat (s) / Tower (s) are stated to be complete in all respects. Otherwise, later on, we can not ask for them. By having Completion Certificate, no Authority can seal or demolish our Flat (s) / Tower (s) in future and also we can not be denied of various municipal, etc services (drinking water, etc).
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Posted on : 18th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

I have talked to Nidhi who is senior over there in Corenthum Building, she said we have only compounding certificate not the completion certificate, also they don't have copy of that map, they can only display against the customer, totally i was not satisfied with her answer.
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Posted on : 17th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

BEWARE! YOUR REGISTERED FLAT COULD BE `UNAUTHORISED'.

The following Article by `Jeevan Prakash sharma' was published regarding Registered Flat could be `unauthorised' in The Hindustan Times (htestates) today (17th November, 2012) :-

AUTHORITIES ARE ALLEGEDLY REGISTERING ALL TYPES OF APARTMENTS IN DELHI NCR WITHOUT THE REQUISITE CHECKS.

1. When 42-year old businessman Vikrant Verma (name changed) bought a flat in a group housing society in Ghaziabad and got it registered, he thought all formalities related to the purchase had been completed. However, much to his horror just a few days after the registration, the Ghaziabad Development Authority (GDA) SEALED the apartment alleging FAR (Floor Area Ratio) violation.

2. "The Developer had built 50 Apartments in excess of the number sanctioned by the GDA for that particular project and sold these to buyers unaware of their legal status. Things would not have gone out of hand had the developer obtained a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE from the GDA – which helps property buyers get details of a property. Strangely enough, even though the developer managed to dispose of these `Unauthorised' Apartments, the Revenue Department went ahead and Registered them without verifying their legal status", says Verma.

3. This is a matter of great concern for people who are investing their lifetime savings in properties.

4. HT Estates has been informed by consumer activists and RWA officials that once a house is registered, it is presumed to be legally safe and free from all encumbrances, but contrary to popular belief, thousands of property buyers in DELHI, GHAZIABAD, NOIDA, GURGAON AND FARIDABAD have suffered huge financial losses and physical and mental harassment even after paying STAMP DUTY AND REGISTERING the property with the Authorities. The Revenue Departments allegedly Register such properties without checking the COMPLETION CERTIFICATE of the Project. The complete lack of coordination between the Revenue Departments and the Development Authorities is enabling many Real Estate Developers and Agents to CHEAT CUSTOMERS.

5. Legal Experts say that a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is a pre-requisite document for Property Registration, SK Pal, a Supreme Court Lawyer who is fighting many cases for Residents' Welfare Associations (RWAs) in Courts, says, "The two Hands of the Government – the Revenue Department and Development Authorities – can't go in different and opposite directions. A COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is mandatory for Registering any Property, BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO PRESSURE TO COLLECT MORE REVENUE, THE REVENUE DEPARTMENTS VIOLATE THE LAW".

6. When a Developer gets his Construction Plans sanctioned from the Development Authority, only the latter is in a position to check if the construction has taken place as per the Sanctioned Plan.

7. "So once the Development Authority issues a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE, it means that the construction has taken place according to the Sanctioned Plan and all the residential units get legal protection", says Alok Kumar, Vice Chairman, RWA Federation, Ghaziabad, who has filed a PIL in the Allahabad High Court highlighting the issue in Ghaziabad.

8. Nitin Saxena, a consumer activist, alleges that there have been cases in Gurgaon of even well-known Developers constructing dwelling units in areas earmarked for Parks and Community Centres. A Developer in Sector 56, Gurgaon, has allegedly built flats on the terrace in violation of Sanctioned Plans.

9. "All the flats are illegal, but they are Registered and openly sold in the market. It's your bad luck if you happen to be a buyer whose flat is being SEALED or DEMOLISHED".

10. Should obtaining a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE be made MANDATORY for a Developer before it hands over the Flats to buyers? And should all projects, once completed, be scrutinised thoroughly to ensure these adhere to the Sanctioned Plans? Officials do not have much to say.

11. PC Meena, Deputy Commissioner, Gurgaon, says, "A COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is not a pre-requisite document for Registration of Property. If it is made mandatory, it will lead to further harassment and complications for the property buyers but if the Development Authorities such as Haryana Development Authority or Town and Country Planning, Gurgaon give us any such guideline, we will follow it".

12. But RK Singh, Senior Town Planner, expresses ignorance about the Revenue Department making the issue of a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE a precondition for Registering a Property. "In the first place, we don't have such violation in Gurgaon where Builders have encroached upon common areas such as Park and Community Centre to construct Flats. But as far as Registration of Properties is concerned, I don't know whether COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is a necessary document for an Apartment Registration. But I am sure the Revenue Department has stringent norms to check any illegalities," he claims.

13. Lack of coordination is evident in Ghaziabad too, where GDA Officials claim that the Revenue Officials should not Register a Property without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE while the Revenue Department says the document is unnecessary.

14. SK Zaman, Senior Town Planner, GDA says, "Without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE, an Apartment should not be Registered because the said Certificate can only differentiate between what is LEGAL and what is ILLEGAL".

15. Disagreeing with this, Rajesh Kumar, ADM, Finance and Revenue, Ghaziabad, says, "We don't need to make a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE such an important document. At present we are Registering Apartments without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE".

16. As far as Delhi is concerned, ever after having several stringent norms for Property Registration, a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is not required for freehold properties. A Revenue Official, requesting anonymity, says, "In Delhi we don't have Group Housing Societies of Private Developers like Ghaziabad and Gurgaon. But in private colonies a lot of fraud takes place when a Builder violates the sanctioned Plans. Such independent floors can be Registered without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE". If you buy an independent floor and get it Registered and if the MCD (Municipal Corporation of Delhi) later discovers violations in the Construction Plans, it can either demolish the construction or book the Property as `unauthorised'. In both cases the buyer has to suffer, says the Officer.
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Posted on : 17th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

COMPLETION CERTIFICATE

The following facts about Completion Certificate are published in The Hindustan Times (htestates) today (17th November, 2012) :-

(a) As per legal provisions related to real estate development in various States, it is mandatory for developers to get a completion/occupancy certificate once they complete the projects.

(b) Completion Certificate means a No-Objection Certificajjjte (NOC) has been granted by the authorities for the building, fire and electrical safety etc. If granted, it means that the structure has been constructed according to the sanctioned Plan.

(c) A Completion Certificate is the only way to keep a check on construction of dwelling units which don't have the requisite safeguards in place.

(d) Legally, Possession without Completion Certificate is not possible. Every developer is supposed to seek a Completion Certificate from all concerned authorities before he/she offers Possession Letters to buyers.

(e) Though it is not mandatory to submit a Completion Certificate for Registration under the Indian Registration Act, Legal Experts say Revenue Departments should ask for Completion Certificates before Registering Property.
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The following Article published in The Hindustan Times of 9th November, 2012 :-

No completion certificate? Penalty awaits.

Get ready to pay a steep penalty if you haven't got the completion certificate of your property. In order to force people into following building byelaws, the three municipal corporations of the Capital are planning to impose property tax three times the normal amount on homes that cannotproduce the completion certificates.

"Many property owners in the city do not apply for completion certificates. We have been examining ways in which the situation can be improved.

One of the models being discussed is to impose heavier property tax on buildings that do not have completion certificates," said East Delhi Municipal commissioner SS Yadav.

There are more than 30 lakh properties in the city but only a few lakhs have completion certificates. Most homes are built illegally, without any building sanctions.

Officials said properties that apply for building plan sanctions sometimes deviate from the plan they have submitted and so become ineligible for the certificate.

To sort out the issues and to regularise more buildings, the three municipal corporations have been holding discussions for more stringent implementation of the building regulations.

By doing so, they hope to curb illegal construction in the city and also avoid building collapses such as the tragic 2010 Lalita Park tragedy in east Delhi that killed ore than 70 people.

"The idea of imposing three times property tax has been derived from a model in Hyderabad where they are already implementing it. In Hyderabad, buildings that do not have completion certificates have to pay not just heavy property tax but also heavier water and electricity charges," said Mahek Singh, standing committee chairman of East Delhi. Civic body officials said if the new model is accepted, a proposal to that effect will be brought before the standing committee of all the three municipal corporations for approval.
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Posted on : Nov 3, 2012 12:01 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear All,

Please ask to builder for showing the Occupancy Certificate issued by GDA before registry of your flat.Don't ask to builder over phone.

Please send the mail to customercare@... and ask for this certificate. Its mandatory to every builder,who is offering the possession of Flat to show this certificate on demand of flat owner.

GDA is also awaring to peoples through Local newspapers.

Rgds

Jitendra Gupta
Riddhi Tower
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 8:01 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Hello Friends,

Today, I had visited Mahagun and had a long discussion with Nidhi and Megha. During our discussion I got to know that Mahagun hasn't received NOC from GDA yet. Nidhi also made one point clear that Mahagun should only expect NOC from GDA once construction work is over. So, I feel there is no point in discussing on NOC anymore.

Moreover, I also made payment against the amount demanded by Mahagun in the "Offer of Possession" letter. Actually, I had to make payment in a hurry because my travel to the United States is planned for 20th October. Nidhi assured me that the flat registry process will be completed by 16th October (once Shradh period is over).

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank You,

Deepak Kumar
Saraswati - 734
+91 9811824292
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:40 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

We have push to builder that obtain CC immediately and share with us. then we will take next course of action..

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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:35 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

You are right sir ji, but how could builder circulate possession letter without completion certificate,if GDA has already post one circular to refrain possession without the same.

--- In MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com, ravi.arora1981@... wrote:
D/a

Have serious doubts on builder receiving completion certificate at this
stage..

It will only be after completion of entire project.

Better we inspect the area arnd 20th OCT and take necessary action after that.

Regards

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:12 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

No issue Saurabh.That's great if they have already received completion
certificate from GDA.But don't rely on words,be ensure to check the same when you would have time to visit in Mahagun office.

--- In MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com, saurabh agrawal <saurabh_life2002@...> wrote:

Anil Ji,

I had planned to visit the premises last sat after meeting, but due to some personal reason, I was not able to made this.

I will try to go there this week-end and will share the status of MahagunPuram Siddhi and Saraswati.

I just has a call with Mr. Deepak (Saraswati). He informed that he had a discussion with Nidhi for completion certificate from GDA. Nidhi informed him that they have already obtained the Completion certificate from GDA.

Thanks & Regards,

Saurabh Kr. Agrawal
Mob: 09540583838
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:09 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

I just called Megha Tyagi to inquire about the CC (completion certificate), initially she pretended as if they have CC for Mahagunpuram but when I requested to get the copy of it, she said Mahagun does not have CC for Mahagunpuram project yet.

I (along with my two colleagues) am planning to write an application to Mahagun officials to provide us the the copy of CC.

We also went through the U.P. urban developement act and it clearly says that it is illeagl to have possession of a project without having the CC.

Thanks,
Sunil
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 9:17 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Complete projects before giving possession: Ghaziabad Development Authority

Ayaskant Das, TNN Sep 24, 2012, 03.00AM IST

GHAZIABAD: The Ghaziabad Development Authority (GDA) has directed all builders and developers in the city to refrain from handing over possession of housing and commercial units without obtaining 'completion certificates' of projects.

The directions have been issued after detection of increasing number of cases where buyers had moved into premises of under-construction projects that did not have completion certificates. Officials at the GDA said that due to lack of proper civic amenities within and around such under-construction projects, several occupants who have already moved in have been making rounds of the development authority's office complaining about lack of basic provisions like water supply, streetlights, etc.

GDA officials say that punitive action might be taken against developers who have been resorting to the practice of handing over possession of properties even though it is mandatory to obtain 'completion certificates' under the Uttar Pradesh Urban Planning and Development Act, 1973. "Immediately upon completion of a project, the concerned developer should apply for obtaining a completion certificate. Allottees should be handed over possession of properties and encouraged to move in only after the project is certified as complete by the authority," said RK Singh, secretary of GDA.

Section 15-A of the urban planning and development Act, besides making it mandatory upon developers to obtain certificates of completion from the development authority, also prohibits allottees in projects from occupying any portion of it until the project has been certified by the authority to have been completed as per plan.

GDA has also appealed to buyers to ensure that the projects they move into have obtained the necessary 'completion certificates' so that any kind of inconveniences or accidents, caused due to non-completion of works, are avoided in the future.

Through a notice, the GDA has distanced itself away from any onus likely to be placed upon it for any untoward incident reported to have occurred due to occupancy in under-construction projects.

"Allottees in projects of private developers should insist upon completion certificates before taking possession of properties. Developers would be forced to obtain these certificates if buyers put up the pressure for it," added Singh.
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 8:20 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

However would suggest to draft the letter for concerns like partial completion/non livable etc around 20th oct and send to (a) Directors (b) Mahagun company.

And a separate query not complaint to GDA asking justification for addition of EDC etc in registry amount.

We all can attest and give our support to the final draft which can be sent through registered post to both separately.

I believe we all want to pay the amount and shift there ASAP, just that we want some basic hygiene conditions to be ready before we shift along with family and kids.

Regards

Ravi Arora
Siddhi- 818
9999380037
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 7:51 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear friends

If maximum of the buyers in tower Siddhi and Saraswati agree then we may make a complaint to GDA that Mahagun is handing over the flats without the completion certificate. It is only to save the penalty. The place will be livable only after completion of project, ie, somewhere in March 2013.

Please give your views.

I am in the favour of it.

Regards.

Narendra
Siddhi- 519
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 12:15 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

This is very true that builders are giving possession letters even before receiving the NOC from Gov bodies, and I suspect the same in case of Mahagunpuram.

After our meeting with Nidhi on Saturday I met another Mahagunpuram member Mr. Gaurav, he said that he does not believe that Mahagun has received the NOC letters from different civic bodies and for that he gave a written application to Mahagun to produce the NOC letters for Mahagunpuram project.

Currently Gaurav is not part of this forum but I requested him to join this so that we can fight together and at the same time I have noted down his contact number for further communications.

I'll post the updates once Gaurav gets any update from mahagun officials about NOC letters.

Thanks,
Sunil
971-186-1027
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Posted on : Aug 21, 2012 5:41 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear All

I wants to know about Occupancy Certificate(OC).

When we should demand from builder?? and from where builder get this certificate.

Please Reply.

Jitendra Gupta
1501, Riddhi Tower
9911837711
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Posted on : Aug 21, 2012 5:36 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Hii All

Anybody knows about Occupancy Certificate (OC).

When we demand from builder.

Please advise.

Jitendra Gupta
1501,Riddhi Tower
Mob No.9911837711
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[Mahagunpuram] COMPLETION CERTIFICATE / COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE

COMPLETION CERTIFICATE / COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE.

Posted on : Wed Nov 28, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Amit ji and Anand Ji...I will also be raising these queries for sure…….Sanjay Kurani
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Posted on : Tue Nov 27, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

By having a copy of COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE, will our Flats will become APPROVED FLATS/TOWERS AT Mahagunpuram OR they will remain UNAPPPROVED till we get a copy of Completion Certificate?

Whether the basic amenities [like Electricity (Cheap Electricity), Drinking Water (Ganga Water), Municipal Services, etc.] will be provided by various authorities with the production of a copy of COMPOUNDING CERTIFICATE or it is mandatory to get all these amenities only on the production of a copy of Completion Certificate.

Also, kindly see the validity of the Compounding Certificate.
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Posted on : Tue Nov 27, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Listen everyone, Mr Manish sareen and Miss Nidhi said they don't have completion certificate as completion certificate is meant for the whole society "Mahagunpuram" as the Mahgunpuram completes hey will obtain the same, They Have Compounding certificate and they can give us in next meeting and any one can see this certificate in correnthum Building at Mahagun office of the individual Building respectively. Now what is the next step decide and follow................ Amit S Gupta
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Posted on : Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:04 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear Devraj Singh,

Ask them to provide a copy of Compounding Certificate. Only then, you will be able to know the difference between the Completion Certificate and Compounding Certificate.

Whether the basic amenities [like Electricity (Cheap Electricity), Drinking Water (Ganga Water), Municipal Services, etc.] will be provided by various authorities with the production of a copy of Compounding Certificate or it is mandatory to get all these amenities only on the production of a copy of Completion Certificate.
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Posted on : Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:34 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Hi all,

When we asked from mahagunpuram official about completion certificate, they told that they have the compounding certificate from gda.

Can some one have idea about what is this compounding certificate?

Is it sufficient or still required the completion certificate?

If they have not obtained the completion certificate, then what action we are planning to get the same from builder ?
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:50 P.M. at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Everybody, including you, should try hard (in writing to Mahagun) so that Mahagun should consider all these things. Otherwise, later on in future, don't complain about the basic requirements [like Electricity (Cheap Electricity), Drinking Water (Ganga Water), Municipal Services, etc.]. It is understood that these services will be provided by the concerned authorities only after production of copy of Completion Certificate.
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:40 P.M. at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

Mahagun is not considering all these things.
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:49 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

You all are also requested to kindly check with Mahagunpuram Officials at Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited), NOIDA whether they are enclosing the copy of Completion Certificate alongwith Possession Letters for possession of Flats of various Blocks (Towers) at Mahagunpuram. Copy of Completion Certificate should also be enclosed with Possession Letters in addition to other/remaining demands / documents by Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited) for the possession of Flats of various Blocks (Towers) at Mahagunpuram.
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Posted on : Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:09 A.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

: Pradeep Bhatt <bhatt26@...>

To: MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, 25 November 2012 6:09 AM

Subject: Re: [Mahagunpuram] COMPLETION CERTIFICATE

what about mahagunpuram?
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Posted on : 25th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

What is a completion certificate?

During the construction of a building, the builder is supposed to get no-objection certificates from various departments of the local development authority for basic amenities such as water and electricity, stating that the building construction is not violating any norms in the area.

Once the project is completed, the local authority inspects the premise on the basis of the building plan and awards the completion certificate if it is satisfied. According to apartment Acts of various states, after completion of a project, it is mandatory for the builder or the owner of a stand-alone property to get a completion certificate from the local authority to ensure the supply of basic amenities.

The builder then applies to the departments yet again along with a copy of the completion certificate to get water, electricity connection and other basic amenities for the project.

Provisional completion certificate: Sometimes builders get a provisional completion certificate to hand over the possession of apartments in a newly constructed project. In the meanwhile, the developer finishes the remaining work such as painting and landscaping. However, the provisional certificate is valid only for six months. After the expiry of this period, the builder has to apply for the final completion certificate.

Why is it important?

Apart from ensuring that basic amenities, such as water, electricity and drainage system are provided, a completion certificate ensures that the builder/owner has constructed the building according to the approved building plan. Without obtaining the completion certificate, the builder cannot give the possession of the house to the buyer.

If the builder cannot get the completion certificate, there could be trouble in terms of delay in possession. For instance, in the Commonwealth Games Village (CWG) in New Delhi, it was found during the process of awarding the completion certificate that the builder had violated norms of the floor area ratio limit by constructing on a larger area than mandated. While the government is yet to decide on awarding the completion certificate and regularization of the extra area, buyers in the project are waiting for possession.
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Posted on : 20th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

It is understood that, at present, all the residents of Siddhi Block (Tower), Saraswati Block (Tower) and Vinayak Block (Tower), who have received Possession Letters, have not been provided with a copy of Completion Certificate alongwith the Possession Letters. About other documents, as indicated by you above, members can confirm by posting on Mahagunpuram Members Wall on Facebook.
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Posted on : 20th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

dear fellow owners at Mahagunpuram, best wishes to all of you.

hope everything gets completed smoothly and all flat owners at MAHAGUNPURAM live in peace.

i have my flat in Bhagirathi tower. i would like to know if anyone has got possession of their flats or tentative schedule of possession. if yes whether they are getting all the property documents necessary as per the local authorities. please share your experience on this platform.
as i know, few of them in the list of these documents are :-

1. approved development plan/layout for complete building or at-least your Flat with common area.

2. architectural specifications line fire safety and earthquake safety parameters if any.

3. completion certificate as per that plan.

4. please add any other if you know.

I have asked these documents to Mahagun some times back but they didn't provide it to me at that time. they said all the necessary documents has been provided to bank which has financed (in my case HDFC). but they promised to provide these documents to me at the time of possession.

I want to know whether people who has already got possession had faced any problem in getting these documents. please share your experience with all of us. it may be possible someone among us may be helpful to you.
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Posted on : 19th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

We all and, especially those who are getting the keys of their Flats in November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram, should request Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited) to give a copy of the Completion Certificate of the completed Tower (s) /Flat (s) for our record and also for further necessary action as copies of Completion Certificate will be required to be given to various Authorities (GDA, Revenue Department, Municipal Corporation, etc) in future for various services.

It is understood that the Possession of Flat (s) / Tower (s) should have to be given to the individuals by first obtaining Completion Certificate from the concerned Authority by Mahagun Group (Mahagun Real Estate Private Limited) only then the works in Flat (s) / Tower (s) are stated to be complete in all respects. Otherwise, later on, we can not ask for them. By having Completion Certificate, no Authority can seal or demolish our Flat (s) / Tower (s) in future and also we can not be denied of various municipal, etc services (drinking water, etc).
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Posted on : 18th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

I have talked to Nidhi who is senior over there in Corenthum Building, she said we have only compounding certificate not the completion certificate, also they don't have copy of that map, they can only display against the customer, totally i was not satisfied with her answer.
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Posted on : 17th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

BEWARE! YOUR REGISTERED FLAT COULD BE `UNAUTHORISED'.

The following Article by `Jeevan Prakash sharma' was published regarding Registered Flat could be `unauthorised' in The Hindustan Times (htestates) today (17th November, 2012) :-

AUTHORITIES ARE ALLEGEDLY REGISTERING ALL TYPES OF APARTMENTS IN DELHI NCR WITHOUT THE REQUISITE CHECKS.

1. When 42-year old businessman Vikrant Verma (name changed) bought a flat in a group housing society in Ghaziabad and got it registered, he thought all formalities related to the purchase had been completed. However, much to his horror just a few days after the registration, the Ghaziabad Development Authority (GDA) SEALED the apartment alleging FAR (Floor Area Ratio) violation.

2. "The Developer had built 50 Apartments in excess of the number sanctioned by the GDA for that particular project and sold these to buyers unaware of their legal status. Things would not have gone out of hand had the developer obtained a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE from the GDA – which helps property buyers get details of a property. Strangely enough, even though the developer managed to dispose of these `Unauthorised' Apartments, the Revenue Department went ahead and Registered them without verifying their legal status", says Verma.

3. This is a matter of great concern for people who are investing their lifetime savings in properties.

4. HT Estates has been informed by consumer activists and RWA officials that once a house is registered, it is presumed to be legally safe and free from all encumbrances, but contrary to popular belief, thousands of property buyers in DELHI, GHAZIABAD, NOIDA, GURGAON AND FARIDABAD have suffered huge financial losses and physical and mental harassment even after paying STAMP DUTY AND REGISTERING the property with the Authorities. The Revenue Departments allegedly Register such properties without checking the COMPLETION CERTIFICATE of the Project. The complete lack of coordination between the Revenue Departments and the Development Authorities is enabling many Real Estate Developers and Agents to CHEAT CUSTOMERS.

5. Legal Experts say that a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is a pre-requisite document for Property Registration, SK Pal, a Supreme Court Lawyer who is fighting many cases for Residents' Welfare Associations (RWAs) in Courts, says, "The two Hands of the Government – the Revenue Department and Development Authorities – can't go in different and opposite directions. A COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is mandatory for Registering any Property, BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO PRESSURE TO COLLECT MORE REVENUE, THE REVENUE DEPARTMENTS VIOLATE THE LAW".

6. When a Developer gets his Construction Plans sanctioned from the Development Authority, only the latter is in a position to check if the construction has taken place as per the Sanctioned Plan.

7. "So once the Development Authority issues a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE, it means that the construction has taken place according to the Sanctioned Plan and all the residential units get legal protection", says Alok Kumar, Vice Chairman, RWA Federation, Ghaziabad, who has filed a PIL in the Allahabad High Court highlighting the issue in Ghaziabad.

8. Nitin Saxena, a consumer activist, alleges that there have been cases in Gurgaon of even well-known Developers constructing dwelling units in areas earmarked for Parks and Community Centres. A Developer in Sector 56, Gurgaon, has allegedly built flats on the terrace in violation of Sanctioned Plans.

9. "All the flats are illegal, but they are Registered and openly sold in the market. It's your bad luck if you happen to be a buyer whose flat is being SEALED or DEMOLISHED".

10. Should obtaining a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE be made MANDATORY for a Developer before it hands over the Flats to buyers? And should all projects, once completed, be scrutinised thoroughly to ensure these adhere to the Sanctioned Plans? Officials do not have much to say.

11. PC Meena, Deputy Commissioner, Gurgaon, says, "A COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is not a pre-requisite document for Registration of Property. If it is made mandatory, it will lead to further harassment and complications for the property buyers but if the Development Authorities such as Haryana Development Authority or Town and Country Planning, Gurgaon give us any such guideline, we will follow it".

12. But RK Singh, Senior Town Planner, expresses ignorance about the Revenue Department making the issue of a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE a precondition for Registering a Property. "In the first place, we don't have such violation in Gurgaon where Builders have encroached upon common areas such as Park and Community Centre to construct Flats. But as far as Registration of Properties is concerned, I don't know whether COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is a necessary document for an Apartment Registration. But I am sure the Revenue Department has stringent norms to check any illegalities," he claims.

13. Lack of coordination is evident in Ghaziabad too, where GDA Officials claim that the Revenue Officials should not Register a Property without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE while the Revenue Department says the document is unnecessary.

14. SK Zaman, Senior Town Planner, GDA says, "Without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE, an Apartment should not be Registered because the said Certificate can only differentiate between what is LEGAL and what is ILLEGAL".

15. Disagreeing with this, Rajesh Kumar, ADM, Finance and Revenue, Ghaziabad, says, "We don't need to make a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE such an important document. At present we are Registering Apartments without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE".

16. As far as Delhi is concerned, ever after having several stringent norms for Property Registration, a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE is not required for freehold properties. A Revenue Official, requesting anonymity, says, "In Delhi we don't have Group Housing Societies of Private Developers like Ghaziabad and Gurgaon. But in private colonies a lot of fraud takes place when a Builder violates the sanctioned Plans. Such independent floors can be Registered without a COMPLETION CERTIFICATE". If you buy an independent floor and get it Registered and if the MCD (Municipal Corporation of Delhi) later discovers violations in the Construction Plans, it can either demolish the construction or book the Property as `unauthorised'. In both cases the buyer has to suffer, says the Officer.
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Posted on : 17th November, 2012 at Mahagunpuram Members Wall of Facebook.

COMPLETION CERTIFICATE

The following facts about Completion Certificate are published in The Hindustan Times (htestates) today (17th November, 2012) :-

(a) As per legal provisions related to real estate development in various States, it is mandatory for developers to get a completion/occupancy certificate once they complete the projects.

(b) Completion Certificate means a No-Objection Certificajjjte (NOC) has been granted by the authorities for the building, fire and electrical safety etc. If granted, it means that the structure has been constructed according to the sanctioned Plan.

(c) A Completion Certificate is the only way to keep a check on construction of dwelling units which don't have the requisite safeguards in place.

(d) Legally, Possession without Completion Certificate is not possible. Every developer is supposed to seek a Completion Certificate from all concerned authorities before he/she offers Possession Letters to buyers.

(e) Though it is not mandatory to submit a Completion Certificate for Registration under the Indian Registration Act, Legal Experts say Revenue Departments should ask for Completion Certificates before Registering Property.
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The following Article published in The Hindustan Times of 9th November, 2012 :-

No completion certificate? Penalty awaits.

Get ready to pay a steep penalty if you haven't got the completion certificate of your property. In order to force people into following building byelaws, the three municipal corporations of the Capital are planning to impose property tax three times the normal amount on homes that cannotproduce the completion certificates.

"Many property owners in the city do not apply for completion certificates. We have been examining ways in which the situation can be improved.

One of the models being discussed is to impose heavier property tax on buildings that do not have completion certificates," said East Delhi Municipal commissioner SS Yadav.

There are more than 30 lakh properties in the city but only a few lakhs have completion certificates. Most homes are built illegally, without any building sanctions.

Officials said properties that apply for building plan sanctions sometimes deviate from the plan they have submitted and so become ineligible for the certificate.

To sort out the issues and to regularise more buildings, the three municipal corporations have been holding discussions for more stringent implementation of the building regulations.

By doing so, they hope to curb illegal construction in the city and also avoid building collapses such as the tragic 2010 Lalita Park tragedy in east Delhi that killed ore than 70 people.

"The idea of imposing three times property tax has been derived from a model in Hyderabad where they are already implementing it. In Hyderabad, buildings that do not have completion certificates have to pay not just heavy property tax but also heavier water and electricity charges," said Mahek Singh, standing committee chairman of East Delhi. Civic body officials said if the new model is accepted, a proposal to that effect will be brought before the standing committee of all the three municipal corporations for approval.
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Posted on : Nov 3, 2012 12:01 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear All,

Please ask to builder for showing the Occupancy Certificate issued by GDA before registry of your flat.Don't ask to builder over phone.

Please send the mail to customercare@... and ask for this certificate. Its mandatory to every builder,who is offering the possession of Flat to show this certificate on demand of flat owner.

GDA is also awaring to peoples through Local newspapers.

Rgds

Jitendra Gupta
Riddhi Tower
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 8:01 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Hello Friends,

Today, I had visited Mahagun and had a long discussion with Nidhi and Megha. During our discussion I got to know that Mahagun hasn't received NOC from GDA yet. Nidhi also made one point clear that Mahagun should only expect NOC from GDA once construction work is over. So, I feel there is no point in discussing on NOC anymore.

Moreover, I also made payment against the amount demanded by Mahagun in the "Offer of Possession" letter. Actually, I had to make payment in a hurry because my travel to the United States is planned for 20th October. Nidhi assured me that the flat registry process will be completed by 16th October (once Shradh period is over).

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thank You,

Deepak Kumar
Saraswati - 734
+91 9811824292
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:40 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

We have push to builder that obtain CC immediately and share with us. then we will take next course of action..

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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:35 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

You are right sir ji, but how could builder circulate possession letter without completion certificate,if GDA has already post one circular to refrain possession without the same.

--- In MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com, ravi.arora1981@... wrote:
D/a

Have serious doubts on builder receiving completion certificate at this
stage..

It will only be after completion of entire project.

Better we inspect the area arnd 20th OCT and take necessary action after that.

Regards

Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:12 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

No issue Saurabh.That's great if they have already received completion
certificate from GDA.But don't rely on words,be ensure to check the same when you would have time to visit in Mahagun office.

--- In MahagunpuramRWA@yahoogroups.com, saurabh agrawal <saurabh_life2002@...> wrote:

Anil Ji,

I had planned to visit the premises last sat after meeting, but due to some personal reason, I was not able to made this.

I will try to go there this week-end and will share the status of MahagunPuram Siddhi and Saraswati.

I just has a call with Mr. Deepak (Saraswati). He informed that he had a discussion with Nidhi for completion certificate from GDA. Nidhi informed him that they have already obtained the Completion certificate from GDA.

Thanks & Regards,

Saurabh Kr. Agrawal
Mob: 09540583838
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Posted on : Sep 25, 2012 1:09 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

I just called Megha Tyagi to inquire about the CC (completion certificate), initially she pretended as if they have CC for Mahagunpuram but when I requested to get the copy of it, she said Mahagun does not have CC for Mahagunpuram project yet.

I (along with my two colleagues) am planning to write an application to Mahagun officials to provide us the the copy of CC.

We also went through the U.P. urban developement act and it clearly says that it is illeagl to have possession of a project without having the CC.

Thanks,
Sunil
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 9:17 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Complete projects before giving possession: Ghaziabad Development Authority

Ayaskant Das, TNN Sep 24, 2012, 03.00AM IST

GHAZIABAD: The Ghaziabad Development Authority (GDA) has directed all builders and developers in the city to refrain from handing over possession of housing and commercial units without obtaining 'completion certificates' of projects.

The directions have been issued after detection of increasing number of cases where buyers had moved into premises of under-construction projects that did not have completion certificates. Officials at the GDA said that due to lack of proper civic amenities within and around such under-construction projects, several occupants who have already moved in have been making rounds of the development authority's office complaining about lack of basic provisions like water supply, streetlights, etc.

GDA officials say that punitive action might be taken against developers who have been resorting to the practice of handing over possession of properties even though it is mandatory to obtain 'completion certificates' under the Uttar Pradesh Urban Planning and Development Act, 1973. "Immediately upon completion of a project, the concerned developer should apply for obtaining a completion certificate. Allottees should be handed over possession of properties and encouraged to move in only after the project is certified as complete by the authority," said RK Singh, secretary of GDA.

Section 15-A of the urban planning and development Act, besides making it mandatory upon developers to obtain certificates of completion from the development authority, also prohibits allottees in projects from occupying any portion of it until the project has been certified by the authority to have been completed as per plan.

GDA has also appealed to buyers to ensure that the projects they move into have obtained the necessary 'completion certificates' so that any kind of inconveniences or accidents, caused due to non-completion of works, are avoided in the future.

Through a notice, the GDA has distanced itself away from any onus likely to be placed upon it for any untoward incident reported to have occurred due to occupancy in under-construction projects.

"Allottees in projects of private developers should insist upon completion certificates before taking possession of properties. Developers would be forced to obtain these certificates if buyers put up the pressure for it," added Singh.
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 8:20 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

However would suggest to draft the letter for concerns like partial completion/non livable etc around 20th oct and send to (a) Directors (b) Mahagun company.

And a separate query not complaint to GDA asking justification for addition of EDC etc in registry amount.

We all can attest and give our support to the final draft which can be sent through registered post to both separately.

I believe we all want to pay the amount and shift there ASAP, just that we want some basic hygiene conditions to be ready before we shift along with family and kids.

Regards

Ravi Arora
Siddhi- 818
9999380037
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 7:51 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear friends

If maximum of the buyers in tower Siddhi and Saraswati agree then we may make a complaint to GDA that Mahagun is handing over the flats without the completion certificate. It is only to save the penalty. The place will be livable only after completion of project, ie, somewhere in March 2013.

Please give your views.

I am in the favour of it.

Regards.

Narendra
Siddhi- 519
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Posted on : Sep 24, 2012 12:15 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

This is very true that builders are giving possession letters even before receiving the NOC from Gov bodies, and I suspect the same in case of Mahagunpuram.

After our meeting with Nidhi on Saturday I met another Mahagunpuram member Mr. Gaurav, he said that he does not believe that Mahagun has received the NOC letters from different civic bodies and for that he gave a written application to Mahagun to produce the NOC letters for Mahagunpuram project.

Currently Gaurav is not part of this forum but I requested him to join this so that we can fight together and at the same time I have noted down his contact number for further communications.

I'll post the updates once Gaurav gets any update from mahagun officials about NOC letters.

Thanks,
Sunil
971-186-1027
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Posted on : Aug 21, 2012 5:41 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Dear All

I wants to know about Occupancy Certificate(OC).

When we should demand from builder?? and from where builder get this certificate.

Please Reply.

Jitendra Gupta
1501, Riddhi Tower
9911837711
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Posted on : Aug 21, 2012 5:36 P.M. at Mahagunpuram RWA – Mahagun Mahagunpuram RWA (groups.yahoo.com)

Hii All

Anybody knows about Occupancy Certificate (OC).

When we demand from builder.

Please advise.

Jitendra Gupta
1501,Riddhi Tower
Mob No.9911837711
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